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What baggies are to be used for ...

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What baggies are to be used for ...

From: cpascott (seh-letterbox@comcast.net) | Date: 2006-10-10 13:17:24 UTC


For the record, those plastic baggies that you see in most
letterboxes are there to keep things DRY. Let's think a moment about
what the critical items are in a letterbox that might need to be dry.

1. The letterbox itself. Well, not really. It is plastic, and if
you're planting responsibly, you're using solid, reasonably
watertight containers such as Rubbermaid or Lock-n-Locks anyway, and
not some flimsy throw-away Glad Ware. Besides, a plastic bag outside
the letterbox doesn't really do much anyway is it pretty much is
guaranteed to be torn almost instantly.

2. The stamp and ink pad. Well, stamps are made of rubber, and
exposure to the elements can ultimately damage them, or at least
allow fungus to grow on them, but they are fairly hardy. They won't
be ruined by getting wet. The ink pad, if included, is a little more
fragile, although most ink pads are surrounded by plastic which
generally resist water. It's a good idea to put these in a bag,
though, to help protect them.

3. The logbook. Easy. At least one would think. Unless someone is
out there using some space-age water-resistent kind of material for
their logbook, generally logbooks are made of PAPER. And paper is
certainly most susceptible to being damaged when wet. You'll
definitely want to keep that logbook dry ... and a solid, non-zipper
freezer bag, preferably double bagged, does the trick.

OK -- so what have we learned? When discovering a letterbox where
baggies are missing, or where only one bag exists -- it is the
LOGBOOK that needs to be covered. Let me repeat. If only one bag is
available, for whatever reason -- cover the LOGBOOK. Again, the
LOGBOOK. OK, one more time for good measure. The LOGBOOK needs to
be in the bag.

Thank you. Perhaps now I will stop finding letterboxes who've lost
all but one baggie, only to find that the last finder decided that
the stamp and inkpad was a better candidate to put in a bag, leaving
the logbook to just sit there exposed. Or -- in the case of one of
my boxes I just checked on for which one bag for the stamp/ink pad
and one for the logbook was instead replaced with the stamp/ink pad
in one bag and the letterbox itself jammed into the other -- again,
leaving the logbook open and exposed. HELLO!



Remember -- protect the LOGBOOK.

Your cooperation is appreciated.


CPAScott







Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: trekkiegal1701d (kjnohr@yahoo.com) | Date: 2006-10-10 13:42:52 UTC
Ok, so what you are saying is that the logbooks(which are made out of
paper, which disintegrates when it gets wet) should be in their own
plastic baggie? Is that what you are trying to get at? ;) I think
you might have been unclear.

Just kidding...and I completely agree. I have even found lock-and-
locks that have gotten moisture inside them, so the baggies are very
important. I hope everyone carries extra baggies with them when they
are out letterboxing - I do. I try to make sure when I leave a box
(especially if someone has used one of those cheapie disposable
containers) that the logbook is in one bag, the stamp is in another
bag, and both of those bags are in a third bag. This seems to help.

TG

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "cpascott"
wrote:
>
>
>
> For the record, those plastic baggies that you see in most
> letterboxes are there to keep things DRY. Let's think a moment
about
> what the critical items are in a letterbox that might need to be
dry.
>
> 1. The letterbox itself. Well, not really. It is plastic, and if
> you're planting responsibly, you're using solid, reasonably
> watertight containers such as Rubbermaid or Lock-n-Locks anyway,
and
> not some flimsy throw-away Glad Ware. Besides, a plastic bag
outside
> the letterbox doesn't really do much anyway is it pretty much is
> guaranteed to be torn almost instantly.
>
> 2. The stamp and ink pad. Well, stamps are made of rubber, and
> exposure to the elements can ultimately damage them, or at least
> allow fungus to grow on them, but they are fairly hardy. They
won't
> be ruined by getting wet. The ink pad, if included, is a little
more
> fragile, although most ink pads are surrounded by plastic which
> generally resist water. It's a good idea to put these in a bag,
> though, to help protect them.
>
> 3. The logbook. Easy. At least one would think. Unless someone
is
> out there using some space-age water-resistent kind of material for
> their logbook, generally logbooks are made of PAPER. And paper is
> certainly most susceptible to being damaged when wet. You'll
> definitely want to keep that logbook dry ... and a solid, non-
zipper
> freezer bag, preferably double bagged, does the trick.
>
> OK -- so what have we learned? When discovering a letterbox where
> baggies are missing, or where only one bag exists -- it is the
> LOGBOOK that needs to be covered. Let me repeat. If only one bag
is
> available, for whatever reason -- cover the LOGBOOK. Again, the
> LOGBOOK. OK, one more time for good measure. The LOGBOOK needs to
> be in the bag.
>
> Thank you. Perhaps now I will stop finding letterboxes who've lost
> all but one baggie, only to find that the last finder decided that
> the stamp and inkpad was a better candidate to put in a bag,
leaving
> the logbook to just sit there exposed. Or -- in the case of one of
> my boxes I just checked on for which one bag for the stamp/ink pad
> and one for the logbook was instead replaced with the stamp/ink pad
> in one bag and the letterbox itself jammed into the other -- again,
> leaving the logbook open and exposed. HELLO!
>
>
>
> Remember -- protect the LOGBOOK.
>
> Your cooperation is appreciated.
>
>
> CPAScott
>





Re: [LbNA] Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: (jimmyc8@cox.net) | Date: 2006-10-10 15:48:03 UTC-04:00
Right,
So it is the logbook we want dry then? (LOL) Actually , I do put mine in a baggie inside the box and then put the box in a big heavy duty baggie , just to be sure. I image over time my big baggie will get some holes though :)
"The Pirates"
---- trekkiegal1701d wrote:
> Ok, so what you are saying is that the logbooks(which are made out of
> paper, which disintegrates when it gets wet) should be in their own
> plastic baggie? Is that what you are trying to get at? ;) I think
> you might have been unclear.
>
> Just kidding...and I completely agree. I have even found lock-and-
> locks that have gotten moisture inside them, so the baggies are very
> important. I hope everyone carries extra baggies with them when they
> are out letterboxing - I do. I try to make sure when I leave a box
> (especially if someone has used one of those cheapie disposable
> containers) that the logbook is in one bag, the stamp is in another
> bag, and both of those bags are in a third bag. This seems to help.
>
> TG
>
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "cpascott"
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > For the record, those plastic baggies that you see in most
> > letterboxes are there to keep things DRY. Let's think a moment
> about
> > what the critical items are in a letterbox that might need to be
> dry.
> >
> > 1. The letterbox itself. Well, not really. It is plastic, and if
> > you're planting responsibly, you're using solid, reasonably
> > watertight containers such as Rubbermaid or Lock-n-Locks anyway,
> and
> > not some flimsy throw-away Glad Ware. Besides, a plastic bag
> outside
> > the letterbox doesn't really do much anyway is it pretty much is
> > guaranteed to be torn almost instantly.
> >
> > 2. The stamp and ink pad. Well, stamps are made of rubber, and
> > exposure to the elements can ultimately damage them, or at least
> > allow fungus to grow on them, but they are fairly hardy. They
> won't
> > be ruined by getting wet. The ink pad, if included, is a little
> more
> > fragile, although most ink pads are surrounded by plastic which
> > generally resist water. It's a good idea to put these in a bag,
> > though, to help protect them.
> >
> > 3. The logbook. Easy. At least one would think. Unless someone
> is
> > out there using some space-age water-resistent kind of material for
> > their logbook, generally logbooks are made of PAPER. And paper is
> > certainly most susceptible to being damaged when wet. You'll
> > definitely want to keep that logbook dry ... and a solid, non-
> zipper
> > freezer bag, preferably double bagged, does the trick.
> >
> > OK -- so what have we learned? When discovering a letterbox where
> > baggies are missing, or where only one bag exists -- it is the
> > LOGBOOK that needs to be covered. Let me repeat. If only one bag
> is
> > available, for whatever reason -- cover the LOGBOOK. Again, the
> > LOGBOOK. OK, one more time for good measure. The LOGBOOK needs to
> > be in the bag.
> >
> > Thank you. Perhaps now I will stop finding letterboxes who've lost
> > all but one baggie, only to find that the last finder decided that
> > the stamp and inkpad was a better candidate to put in a bag,
> leaving
> > the logbook to just sit there exposed. Or -- in the case of one of
> > my boxes I just checked on for which one bag for the stamp/ink pad
> > and one for the logbook was instead replaced with the stamp/ink pad
> > in one bag and the letterbox itself jammed into the other -- again,
> > leaving the logbook open and exposed. HELLO!
> >
> >
> >
> > Remember -- protect the LOGBOOK.
> >
> > Your cooperation is appreciated.
> >
> >
> > CPAScott
> >
>
>
>
>


Re: [LbNA] Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: Silent Doug (silentdoug@letterboxing.info) | Date: 2006-10-10 16:05:58 UTC-04:00
At 03:48 PM 10/10/2006, you wrote:
>I do put mine in a baggie inside the box and then put the box in a
>big heavy duty baggie , just to be sure. I image over time my big
>baggie will get some holes though :)

This is known as the Letterbox Moisture Retention System (LeMoRS).
Since the outer baggies are guaranteed to tear, puncture or unseal
within days of planting, all the system does is ensure that any fluid
that reaches inside the baggie will remain in contact with the
letterbox into perpetuity, which is does with a near 100% performance
record....

:-)

SD


#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#-#
Silent Doug, P77 F1551 X210 E42
http://www.letterboxing.info
Get a Clue - Go Letterboxing!


Re: [LbNA] Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: (kotlarek@wi.rr.com) | Date: 2006-10-10 15:13:29 UTC-05:00
----- Original Message -----
> At 03:48 PM 10/10/2006, you wrote:
> >I do put mine in a baggie inside the box and then put the box in
> a
> >big heavy duty baggie , just to be sure. I image over time my big
> >baggie will get some holes though :)
> ==========================

Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: thattawayof6sneakers (jeanann@voicenet.com) | Date: 2006-10-10 21:22:41 UTC
---

Excuse me, what about the logbook? Shouldn't that be in a bag?

Did you say put the logbook in a bag?

...........................I'm so sorry, CPA Scott. I'm just a Wise
Guy and couldn't resist!!!! You're very right but you left yourself
wide open. Please laugh!

Happy Hunting!
Thattaway



In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "cpascott"
wrote:
>
>
>
> For the record, those plastic baggies that you see in most
> letterboxes are there to keep things DRY. Let's think a moment
about
> what the critical items are in a letterbox that might need to be
dry.
>
> 1. The letterbox itself. Well, not really. It is plastic, and if
> you're planting responsibly, you're using solid, reasonably
> watertight containers such as Rubbermaid or Lock-n-Locks anyway,
and
> not some flimsy throw-away Glad Ware. Besides, a plastic bag
outside
> the letterbox doesn't really do much anyway is it pretty much is
> guaranteed to be torn almost instantly.
>
> 2. The stamp and ink pad. Well, stamps are made of rubber, and
> exposure to the elements can ultimately damage them, or at least
> allow fungus to grow on them, but they are fairly hardy. They
won't
> be ruined by getting wet. The ink pad, if included, is a little
more
> fragile, although most ink pads are surrounded by plastic which
> generally resist water. It's a good idea to put these in a bag,
> though, to help protect them.
>
> 3. The logbook. Easy. At least one would think. Unless someone
is
> out there using some space-age water-resistent kind of material
for
> their logbook, generally logbooks are made of PAPER. And paper is
> certainly most susceptible to being damaged when wet. You'll
> definitely want to keep that logbook dry ... and a solid, non-
zipper
> freezer bag, preferably double bagged, does the trick.
>
> OK -- so what have we learned? When discovering a letterbox where
> baggies are missing, or where only one bag exists -- it is the
> LOGBOOK that needs to be covered. Let me repeat. If only one bag
is
> available, for whatever reason -- cover the LOGBOOK. Again, the
> LOGBOOK. OK, one more time for good measure. The LOGBOOK needs
to
> be in the bag.
>
> Thank you. Perhaps now I will stop finding letterboxes who've
lost
> all but one baggie, only to find that the last finder decided that
> the stamp and inkpad was a better candidate to put in a bag,
leaving
> the logbook to just sit there exposed. Or -- in the case of one
of
> my boxes I just checked on for which one bag for the stamp/ink pad
> and one for the logbook was instead replaced with the stamp/ink
pad
> in one bag and the letterbox itself jammed into the other --
again,
> leaving the logbook open and exposed. HELLO!
>
>
>
> Remember -- protect the LOGBOOK.
>
> Your cooperation is appreciated.
>
>
> CPAScott
>





Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: thattawayof6sneakers (jeanann@voicenet.com) | Date: 2006-10-10 21:30:16 UTC
---
I should have kept reading. Evidentally, I am not the only Wise Guy
out here! YAY!



In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "cpascott"
wrote:
>
>
>
> For the record, those plastic baggies that you see in most
> letterboxes are there to keep things DRY. Let's think a moment
about
> what the critical items are in a letterbox that might need to be
dry.
>
> 1. The letterbox itself. Well, not really. It is plastic, and if
> you're planting responsibly, you're using solid, reasonably
> watertight containers such as Rubbermaid or Lock-n-Locks anyway,
and
> not some flimsy throw-away Glad Ware. Besides, a plastic bag
outside
> the letterbox doesn't really do much anyway is it pretty much is
> guaranteed to be torn almost instantly.
>
> 2. The stamp and ink pad. Well, stamps are made of rubber, and
> exposure to the elements can ultimately damage them, or at least
> allow fungus to grow on them, but they are fairly hardy. They
won't
> be ruined by getting wet. The ink pad, if included, is a little
more
> fragile, although most ink pads are surrounded by plastic which
> generally resist water. It's a good idea to put these in a bag,
> though, to help protect them.
>
> 3. The logbook. Easy. At least one would think. Unless someone
is
> out there using some space-age water-resistent kind of material
for
> their logbook, generally logbooks are made of PAPER. And paper is
> certainly most susceptible to being damaged when wet. You'll
> definitely want to keep that logbook dry ... and a solid, non-
zipper
> freezer bag, preferably double bagged, does the trick.
>
> OK -- so what have we learned? When discovering a letterbox where
> baggies are missing, or where only one bag exists -- it is the
> LOGBOOK that needs to be covered. Let me repeat. If only one bag
is
> available, for whatever reason -- cover the LOGBOOK. Again, the
> LOGBOOK. OK, one more time for good measure. The LOGBOOK needs
to
> be in the bag.
>
> Thank you. Perhaps now I will stop finding letterboxes who've
lost
> all but one baggie, only to find that the last finder decided that
> the stamp and inkpad was a better candidate to put in a bag,
leaving
> the logbook to just sit there exposed. Or -- in the case of one
of
> my boxes I just checked on for which one bag for the stamp/ink pad
> and one for the logbook was instead replaced with the stamp/ink
pad
> in one bag and the letterbox itself jammed into the other --
again,
> leaving the logbook open and exposed. HELLO!
>
>
>
> Remember -- protect the LOGBOOK.
>
> Your cooperation is appreciated.
>
>
> CPAScott
>





Re: [LbNA] Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: (diana@kjsl.com) | Date: 2006-10-10 18:04:18 UTC-04:00
Hey thattaway, aren't you a Wise Girl????

DEF


> ---
> I should have kept reading. Evidentally, I am not the only Wise Guy
> out here! YAY!
>
>
>
> In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "cpascott"
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> For the record, those plastic baggies that you see in most
>> letterboxes are there to keep things DRY. Let's think a moment



Re: [LbNA] Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: SpringChick (letterbox@comcast.net) | Date: 2006-10-10 18:30:26 UTC-04:00
Yes, but it is frustrating how often I go to check on a box that I did not have inside an outer bag and somebody has *kindly* placed it in an outer bag for me. This past weekend we checked in on about 8 letterboxes and 2 were found inside bags that should not have been. Several others were missing inside bags and/or had either the stamp or the logbook exposed and not in a baggie. One had no baggies in it at all. So where do these baggies go? I doubt that a critter came along looking for a spare baggie to bag his leftover lunch and nicely placed everything back inside my rubbermaid container after swiping the bag. No, more likely a *person* put it back like that... how can you put everything back into the container and not notice that you forgot the baggies?

SpringChick


----- Original Message -----
From: kotlarek@wi.rr.com
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: What baggies are to be used for ...


----- Original Message -----
> At 03:48 PM 10/10/2006, you wrote:
> >I do put mine in a baggie inside the box and then put the box in
> a
> >big heavy duty baggie , just to be sure. I image over time my big
> >baggie will get some holes though :)
> ==========================
From Silent Doug
> This is known as the Letterbox Moisture Retention System (LeMoRS).
> Since the outer baggies are guaranteed to tear, puncture or unseal
> within days of planting, all the system does is ensure that any
> fluid
> that reaches inside the baggie will remain in contact with the
> letterbox into perpetuity, which is does with a near 100%
> performance
> record....
>
> :-)
>
> SD
>

Too funny!! I initially made the mistake of placing the first few
boxes I planted INSIDE a large bag, thinking it would protect them
better. WRONG!! Moisture retention is exactly what it does. In
addition, it makes it much easier for an animal to drag off and also
much more "visible" to a passing muggle. Once I realized this, I went
back and removed the outer "box bags" (and of course they were
punctured and retaining moisture).

Typical "newbie" error!

Wisconsin Hiker





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Re: [LbNA] Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: Barefoot Lucy (barefootlucy@gmail.com) | Date: 2006-10-10 17:53:09 UTC-05:00
On 10/10/06, SpringChick wrote:

I doubt that a critter came along looking for a spare baggie to bag his
leftover lunch and nicely placed everything back inside my rubbermaid
container after swiping the bag.

**********I believe you are jumping to conclusions on this point - I just
wouldn't be surprised to find a raccoon that has figured out he can pack
more out of my campsite if he brings along baggies!
--
Barefoot Lucy
"It's not about footwear, it's about philosophy"


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[LbNA] Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: Susan Johnson (susan@kuku.org) | Date: 2006-10-10 23:22:31 UTC
It's me. I must admit it. When I find a letterbox, I log in. Then I
eat the baggies! Bwaahaahaahaa!

Just kidding.

How do people forget the baggies? They get excited. They're with
several other people and are chatting and logging.

BUT I always look for the baggies when it's time to put it back!!!!

Also, for the habit of people putting the whole box in a bag (this
spells disaster in the rainy part of the Pacific NW): Mark your
baggies with "Logbook outer bag" "Logbook inner bag" "Rubber stamp
bag", etc. Might help those people realize anew, as CPAScott said so
wonderfully, it's the LOGBOOK we need to keep dry!

Wisconsin Hiker, at least when you realized your mistake, you went
back and rectified it!

Now, excuse me, I'm off to munch more baggies . . .

KuKu

>One had no baggies in it at all. So where do these baggies go? I
>doubt that a critter came along looking for a spare baggie to bag
>his leftover lunch and nicely placed everything back inside my
>rubbermaid container after swiping the bag. No, more likely a
>*person* put it back like that... how can you put everything back
>into the container and not notice that you forgot the baggies?
>
> SpringChick






Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: thattawayof6sneakers (jeanann@voicenet.com) | Date: 2006-10-11 01:47:16 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, diana@... wrote:
>
> "Guy" is collective where I come from as in "You, Guys, hurry up"!
How about Wise Acre (sp?)?

THen again I always refer to myself as Chairman, Spokesman, Salesman
since I'm a Human. Thank God, it's Letterbox-ER!

Happy Hunting! I'm going. . .
Thattaway

Hey thattaway, aren't you a Wise Girl????
>
> DEF
>
>
> > ---
> > I should have kept reading. Evidentally, I am not the only Wise
Guy
> > out here! YAY!
> >
> >
> >
> > In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "cpascott"
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> For the record, those plastic baggies that you see in most
> >> letterboxes are there to keep things DRY. Let's think a moment
>





[LbNA] Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: connfederate (connfederate@yahoo.com) | Date: 2006-10-11 01:52:39 UTC
LeMoRS, LOL! I just found a 'box today, it was inside a baggie and I
was the first finder...the first find was a hole in the outer baggie!
Will it get wet and retain water? In the words of Paul
Prudhomme: "Ah Gar-U-ntee!" :p

Silent Doug wrote:
> This is known as the Letterbox Moisture Retention System (LeMoRS).





Re: [LbNA] Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: Jim C (jimmyc8@cox.net) | Date: 2006-10-10 23:02:52 UTC-04:00
Haha...
Yes I am a Newbie.... Next thing you are probably going to tell me that I need to remove my Bright Neon Arrow sign that reads "Letterbox ahead 1 mile" and "Letterbox Here" and of course "You just passed the letterbox" . I will remember the LeMoRS next time I box :) Thanks for the tip! LOL
"The Pirates"


----- Original Message -----
From: kotlarek@wi.rr.com
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: What baggies are to be used for ...


----- Original Message -----
> At 03:48 PM 10/10/2006, you wrote:
> >I do put mine in a baggie inside the box and then put the box in
> a
> >big heavy duty baggie , just to be sure. I image over time my big
> >baggie will get some holes though :)
> ==========================
From Silent Doug
> This is known as the Letterbox Moisture Retention System (LeMoRS).
> Since the outer baggies are guaranteed to tear, puncture or unseal
> within days of planting, all the system does is ensure that any
> fluid
> that reaches inside the baggie will remain in contact with the
> letterbox into perpetuity, which is does with a near 100%
> performance
> record....
>
> :-)
>
> SD
>

Too funny!! I initially made the mistake of placing the first few
boxes I planted INSIDE a large bag, thinking it would protect them
better. WRONG!! Moisture retention is exactly what it does. In
addition, it makes it much easier for an animal to drag off and also
much more "visible" to a passing muggle. Once I realized this, I went
back and removed the outer "box bags" (and of course they were
punctured and retaining moisture).

Typical "newbie" error!

Wisconsin Hiker





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Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: (imdurangogirl@aol.com) | Date: 2006-10-11 01:23:41 UTC-04:00
I always assumed that the baggies went to the same place missing socks go
too ;-)~


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Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: Becky (imdurangogirl@aol.com) | Date: 2006-10-11 05:31:20 UTC
I always assumed they went to the same place socks go to when they
disappear out of the dryer ;-)~
~The Cats Meow~



--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "SpringChick"
wrote:
>
> Yes, but it is frustrating how often I go to check on a box that I
did not have inside an outer bag and somebody has *kindly* placed it
in an outer bag for me. This past weekend we checked in on about 8
letterboxes and 2 were found inside bags that should not have been.
Several others were missing inside bags and/or had either the stamp
or the logbook exposed and not in a baggie. One had no baggies in it
at all. So where do these baggies go? I doubt that a critter came
along looking for a spare baggie to bag his leftover lunch and nicely
placed everything back inside my rubbermaid container after swiping
the bag. No, more likely a *person* put it back like that... how
can you put everything back into the container and not notice that
you forgot the baggies?
>
> SpringChick
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: kotlarek@...
> To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: What baggies are to be used for ...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > At 03:48 PM 10/10/2006, you wrote:
> > >I do put mine in a baggie inside the box and then put the box
in
> > a
> > >big heavy duty baggie , just to be sure. I image over time my
big
> > >baggie will get some holes though :)
> > ==========================
> From Silent Doug
> > This is known as the Letterbox Moisture Retention System
(LeMoRS).
> > Since the outer baggies are guaranteed to tear, puncture or
unseal
> > within days of planting, all the system does is ensure that any
> > fluid
> > that reaches inside the baggie will remain in contact with the
> > letterbox into perpetuity, which is does with a near 100%
> > performance
> > record....
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > SD
> >
>
> Too funny!! I initially made the mistake of placing the first few
> boxes I planted INSIDE a large bag, thinking it would protect
them
> better. WRONG!! Moisture retention is exactly what it does. In
> addition, it makes it much easier for an animal to drag off and
also
> much more "visible" to a passing muggle. Once I realized this, I
went
> back and removed the outer "box bags" (and of course they were
> punctured and retaining moisture).
>
> Typical "newbie" error!
>
> Wisconsin Hiker
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LbNA] Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: (MDHASZ@aol.com) | Date: 2006-10-11 08:13:28 UTC-04:00
I use baggies as a guide in finding the letterbox. I sometimes find the box
with a new baggie in it and the old one on the ground. Ut oh, is that giving
away too many locating hints???
DancingStar/Connecticut


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Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: Althea Gill (althea_gill@yahoo.com) | Date: 2006-10-11 08:28:35 UTC-07:00
<< Yes I am a Newbie.... Next thing you are probably going to tell me that I need to remove my Bright Neon Arrow sign that reads "Letterbox ahead 1 mile" and "Letterbox Here" and of course "You just passed the letterbox" . I will remember the LeMoRS next time I box :) Thanks for the tip! LOL>>>

Too funny! Sad thing is I never have seen your neon signs; must have gotten water retention damage! :o) That 'just passed the LB' sign would be handy though!

Travel'n Turtle



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Re: [LbNA] Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: Jim C (jimmyc8@cox.net) | Date: 2006-10-11 22:20:54 UTC-04:00
Hi,
You Turtles have the Super Duty Survive-nuclear-explosion containers! I love those things, where do you get them??
"The Pirates"

----- Original Message -----
From: Althea Gill
To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:28 AM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: What baggies are to be used for ...


<< Yes I am a Newbie.... Next thing you are probably going to tell me that I need to remove my Bright Neon Arrow sign that reads "Letterbox ahead 1 mile" and "Letterbox Here" and of course "You just passed the letterbox" . I will remember the LeMoRS next time I box :) Thanks for the tip! LOL>>>

Too funny! Sad thing is I never have seen your neon signs; must have gotten water retention damage! :o) That 'just passed the LB' sign would be handy though!

Travel'n Turtle

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Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: gerania93 (gerania93@yahoo.com) | Date: 2006-10-12 11:38:47 UTC
Did you mean the paper part? The thing that you stamp into?

Gerania


--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "cpascott"
wrote:
>
>
>
> For the record, those plastic baggies that you see in most
> letterboxes are there to keep things DRY. Let's think a moment about
> what the critical items are in a letterbox that might need to be dry.
>
> 1. The letterbox itself. Well, not really. It is plastic, and if
> you're planting responsibly, you're using solid, reasonably
> watertight containers such as Rubbermaid or Lock-n-Locks anyway, and
> not some flimsy throw-away Glad Ware. Besides, a plastic bag outside
> the letterbox doesn't really do much anyway is it pretty much is
> guaranteed to be torn almost instantly.
>
> 2. The stamp and ink pad. Well, stamps are made of rubber, and
> exposure to the elements can ultimately damage them, or at least
> allow fungus to grow on them, but they are fairly hardy. They won't
> be ruined by getting wet. The ink pad, if included, is a little more
> fragile, although most ink pads are surrounded by plastic which
> generally resist water. It's a good idea to put these in a bag,
> though, to help protect them.
>
> 3. The logbook. Easy. At least one would think. Unless someone is
> out there using some space-age water-resistent kind of material for
> their logbook, generally logbooks are made of PAPER. And paper is
> certainly most susceptible to being damaged when wet. You'll
> definitely want to keep that logbook dry ... and a solid, non-zipper
> freezer bag, preferably double bagged, does the trick.
>
> OK -- so what have we learned? When discovering a letterbox where
> baggies are missing, or where only one bag exists -- it is the
> LOGBOOK that needs to be covered. Let me repeat. If only one bag is
> available, for whatever reason -- cover the LOGBOOK. Again, the
> LOGBOOK. OK, one more time for good measure. The LOGBOOK needs to
> be in the bag.
>
> Thank you. Perhaps now I will stop finding letterboxes who've lost
> all but one baggie, only to find that the last finder decided that
> the stamp and inkpad was a better candidate to put in a bag, leaving
> the logbook to just sit there exposed. Or -- in the case of one of
> my boxes I just checked on for which one bag for the stamp/ink pad
> and one for the logbook was instead replaced with the stamp/ink pad
> in one bag and the letterbox itself jammed into the other -- again,
> leaving the logbook open and exposed. HELLO!
>
>
>
> Remember -- protect the LOGBOOK.
>
> Your cooperation is appreciated.
>
>
> CPAScott
>




Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: Althea Gill (althea_gill@yahoo.com) | Date: 2006-10-12 05:14:52 UTC-07:00
<"The Pirates" wrote: Hi,
You Turtles have the Super Duty Survive-nuclear- explosion containers! I love those things, where do you get them??>

Those are Lock & Locks from Target or Walmart (thus far). I love them. I did actually find one with the top on backwards; still snapped. And the inside bag not sealed. Fortunately I was right after her adding more Mystery Clue slips to that box. The box had the clue taped inside it (which was now outside and readable). Would have thought that would have been a hint. Busy area, probably trying to be quick! All 3 others in the series were perfect.

Pirates, if you come across any of my other Lock & Lock boxes, feel free to remove the "LeMoRS" for me. I'll replace any cheap containers as I go. I'm guilty of early outside bagging. And I did just find someone's LB with at least 2 inches of water inside. The box was perfectly dry and a gladware container. More shocked I couldn't have been!

Loving the topic; very educational!

Travel'n Turtle & Laney Bug



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Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: Donna DiFiore (Dondo_48@msn.com) | Date: 2006-10-13 20:18:28 UTC-04:00
BRAVO SCOTT !!!!!!!!!!

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Re: What baggies are to be used for ...

From: Donna DiFiore (Dondo_48@msn.com) | Date: 2006-10-13 20:20:15 UTC-04:00
BRAVO CpaScott!!!!!!!!!!


Box on:


SAGACORN

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